
Using piggy.db as web app
Reported by Molingo | April 3rd, 2013 @ 12:28 AM
Hello together,
I love using piggy.db as knowledge collector for some months
now.
I would also like to use it "on the go" and as a web
service/online.
I am not very advanced regarding server environments yet as far as
I understand it you need to have a tomcat server to deploy the
".war" file of piggy.db. Yet tomcat environments are hard to find
on shared (and cheaper) hostings.
I guess there are now plans so far to have piggy.db as an online
service or with an easy way to use it on a shared hosting?
Or are there any plans to migrate piggy.db for android?
Either of the two would be wonderful as I do a lot of collecting and writing of knowledge fragments on my tablet. So far I use another program on android and copy&paste it to piggy.db when back to my desktop pc. Yet that gets a bit time-consuming...
Thank you for an answer!
Kind regards
Molingo
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marubinotto April 4th, 2013 @ 02:32 AM
Hi Molingo,
Thank you for your feedback.
I guess there are now plans so far to have piggy.db as an online service or with an easy way to use it on a shared hosting?
Yes, though no concrete plan in place, I've being thinking about that, like Piggydb@cloud service.
I wonder how much a reasonable price for personal users would be. What do you think about that?
Best regards,
Daisuke -
Molingo April 4th, 2013 @ 08:29 PM
Hello Daisuke,
thanks for your answer!
To be true: I like to have everything on my own cloud. Piggy.db is the first app that needs to have a tomcat server (right?) and those are quite expensive in comparison to "normal" hosting services. So it would be great to have other options to use piggy.db in the mobile world - yet I guess the only way would be to use the right server system?
Then: Good question about the reasonable price for a cloud service offered by you...I do pay enough for my webhosters so I am not that much in the mood to pay for extra services which I usually can realize by myself. Yet if I (or others) are serious about using piggy.db mobile I would say it should be cheaper than buying/renting a dedicated tomcat webhosting space/server - cheapest I found was about 5 € (EUR). And I thought that's to expensive for just running piggy.db.
So in the beginning I would argue for a quite low price between 1 to max. 3 € (EUR) per month.
Might this be manageable?
Kind regards
Molingo -
Molingo April 4th, 2013 @ 08:33 PM
...or maybe something like a "special extra supporters edition" with a one-year subsription of about 12-16 € - I still feel more comfortable with long run buys :)
Looking forward for some kind of mobile support - I am just fiddling around which tools to use in my windows-android-system for the knowledge collecting and creating...
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Nicolas Capponi April 6th, 2013 @ 01:01 PM
Hello,
You can host piggydb for free if you use a Java PaaS such as Cloudbees (http://www.cloudbees.com) - there are others Java PaaS.
I've just tried and it works well.
Subscribe, then create an application based on tomcat (default choice it seems), then follow guide : https://developer.cloudbees.com/bin/view/RUN/GettingStarted Piggydb is available as a war file so you just have to follow "Using RUN@cloud with an existing app" section.
It seems responsive, but my base is just empty for now so I can't tell if behavior will be ok with lot of data.
Regards,
Nicolas -
marubinotto April 7th, 2013 @ 10:22 AM
Hi Molingo,
Thank you very much for your view on the topic. It is very helpful.
As you wrote, I think the mobile support (for smart phones and tablets) is the most important factor for launching a cloud service.
Best regards,
Daisuke -
marubinotto April 7th, 2013 @ 10:35 AM
Hi Nicolas,
Thank you for the info.
I've tried out Cloudbees before and it seems to work, but unfortunately (it is really unfortunate because Cloudbees is a very nice, easy-to-use service), the file system on Cloudbees is temporary/ephemeral. So your database will be cleared in some time.
http://developer.cloudbees.com/bin/view/RUN/File+system+access
Best regards,
Daisuke -
Sungbin Jeon April 8th, 2013 @ 02:01 AM
Hello,
Openshift offers free tomcat cloud hosting:
https://www.openshift.com/blogs/run-your-java-tomcat-application-fo...
https://www.openshift.com/blogs/free-apache-tomcat-hosting-in-the-c...I am trying to install Piggydb on that, but it's bit difficult..
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marubinotto April 8th, 2013 @ 01:43 PM
Hi Sungbin,
Thank you for another info.
I've not heard of Openshift. As you wrote, it would be a little bit difficult for non-programmers to install Piggydb. But, it's still interesting as a choice of hosting platform.
Another hosting service I used before for a demo server is EATJ.com. It's easy to use and works fine. You can try out TRIAL for free.
Best regards,
Daisuke -
Molingo April 10th, 2013 @ 08:18 PM
Hello everyone,
thank you all for those valuable information about hosting offers!
@ Sungbin Jeon Did you get piggy.db work on the hosting service?
Best regards
Molingo -
Sungbin Jeon April 11th, 2013 @ 06:16 AM
Hello Molingo,
I am currently running Piggydb on my own web server, installing Tomcat on Windows Server 2012. (http://db.clockospace.net)
I tried several JSP hosting services offer in my country, but setting up the environment is so hard to Java novice..If you are interested of running Piggydb on cloud service, I recommend Jelastic. (jelastic.com)
I tested it and seems to work fine.Thanks,
Jeon
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