#29 ✓resolved
M Foerster

problems with new versions using ubuntu and feature req: tags

Reported by M Foerster | August 9th, 2012 @ 01:24 PM

using ubuntu and firefox:
- standalone - 6dev9 and earlier - versions cannot be started neither using ubuntu's java nore the "original" - all in one package gives no possibility to create a new fragment :-( ==> using win : all is fine

feature request for tags:
One of the main reasons I'm using piggydb at the moment is the nice feature to have tags for the fragments - as far as I see, the main purpose of this program to structure things and find related items. The tag cloud is a nice feature, too - but to find relations more efficiently I would like to see the relation between tags - which tags are connected to others finding the other tags in fragments so I can see different relations. Have a look at a firefox plugin named collusion ( www.mozilla.org/collusion/ ) and I think you'll know what I mean. Would be a nice new feature.

and btw: how can I jump directly to fragment #xx, if I'm reading fragment #yyy?

meanwhile thanks for the nice (platform independant) program

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  • marubinotto

    marubinotto August 9th, 2012 @ 04:50 PM

    Hi, thank you for your report and feedback.

    What is your Java version (the output of 'java -version') and are there any error messages (or log messages in piggydb.log)?

    feature request for tags

    How about 'Related Tags' shown in the sidebar of the tag page?

    how can I jump directly to fragment #xx, if I'm reading fragment #yyy?

    There is no direct feature to do that, but you can do that by rewriting the ID part of the URL (like: http://localhost:8080/fragment.htm?id=[ID]) in the address bar.

  • M Foerster

    M Foerster August 9th, 2012 @ 07:01 PM

    thank you for this quick response

    • java versions

    java version "1.6.0_24"
    OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.3) (6b24-1.11.3-1ubuntu0.12.04.1)
    OpenJDK Server VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode)

    java version "1.7.0_04"
    Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_04-b20)
    Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 23.0-b21, mixed mode)

    standalone 6dev9

    ERROR [2012/08/08 20:04:36] (PiggydbServer)

        at java.awt.TrayIcon.<init>(TrayIcon.java:141)
        at java.awt.TrayIcon.<init>(TrayIcon.java:165)
        at java.awt.TrayIcon.<init>(TrayIcon.java:194)
        at marubinotto.piggydb.standalone.PiggydbServer.setupTrayIcon(PiggydbServer.java:181)
        at marubinotto.piggydb.standalone.PiggydbServer.launch(PiggydbServer.java:87)
        at marubinotto.piggydb.standalone.PiggydbServer.main(PiggydbServer.java:48)

    all-in-one 6dev9, 8
    starts normally but as described, but no new fragment-editor window
    opening clicking the knob

    • feat request - much more conceptual:

    ok, related fragments - but then I have to look in all my fragments
    and relate them manually (meanwhile I have a lot) => if there would be
    a graph of interconnected tags the I could focus on one - this one
    would show the other tags which are related to fragments with this
    tag, e.g.

    fragment 1 has tag A, B, C - fragment 10 has B, D, E fragment 100 has
    A, F, G then there would be a connection between all three fragments I
    never would have expected (ok: 3 fragments are not the point, think
    about some 100s) - in collusion You really see that there are some
    relations You never would imagine - and using piggydb as conceptual
    tool it would be great to have this possibility

    Thanks again

  • marubinotto

    marubinotto August 10th, 2012 @ 06:37 AM

    According to the log messages, the system tray seems not to be available on your environment, which is required for the standalone package to run. I don't know much about Ubuntu, but is the following site helpful for you?

    As for the all-in-one package, I think it is a problem of the web browser. Is it no problem on Windows? What browser did you use?

    • feature request for tags

    Sorry, I don't understand your point clearly. To view the fragments related with a tag (having a common tag), you just click the tag and jump to the tag page. Or you want to view the relationship in a 'graph'?

  • M Foerster

    M Foerster August 10th, 2012 @ 10:14 AM

    Thank You for the hint how to reenable the system tray - esp. looking for zje whitelist, I'll try it later today.

    Browser used: firefox (on win all is working fine! :-)

    now the conceptual considerations:

    Yes, I want to view the relationship in a 'graph' - but not only one but all !

    I would like to see a tag as a circle with the written tag in it connected to other circles ( = tags). I choose one connected circle, it will move into the center re-arranging all connected other tags, I doble-click on a circle and I will have a list of fragments containing all the tags I was looking for or !! they have something in common I never was aware of.
    btw.: radius of circles may correspond to the font size in the tag cloud, thickness of connections may correspond to the number of tags fragments have in common.

    p.s.: beside collusion, perhaps a look at www.zotero.org would be fun

  • marubinotto

    marubinotto August 10th, 2012 @ 09:04 PM

    What is your Firefox version, and is the problem reproduced on other browsers?

    • feature request for tags

    Thank you for the detailed explanation. You mean, seeing the whole relationships from a kind of bird's eye view allows you to find relationships that you are not aware of, right? I have been thinking about adding a graph view in the future. So I will consider your idea. Thank you for your suggestion ;-)

  • M Foerster

    M Foerster August 13th, 2012 @ 12:55 PM

    Thank You

    Concerning "birds-view" hits my request, I think it will be much more helpful than the "linear" mind-map programs approach (xml-trees).

    Regarding the difficulties running under linux - its seems to be more complicated than I thought:

    • standalone doesn't start neither using ubuntu (gnome) nor puppy-linux (openbox) as windows-manager (I'll try kde later)
    • all in one starts fine (perhaps you trap the tray-error and switch to all-in-one loading)
    • firefox (14.0.1) does not pop-up the editor for new fragment (nor gnome neither openbox) -- but the linux version of google's chrome works fine !!, so there is a way to continue working with that nice program also under linux - as I prefered.


  • marubinotto

    marubinotto March 19th, 2014 @ 02:20 AM

    • State changed from “new” to “resolved”

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